Notes | Accomplices Not Allies: Abolishing the Ally Industrial Complex from Indigenous Action

About

This provocation is intended to intervene in some of the current tensions around solidarity/support work as the current trajectories are counter-liberatory from my perspective.

Below are excerpts from the article:

The ally industrial complex: Capitalists advancing their careers off the struggles they ostensibly support. Where struggle is commodity, allyship is currency

Accomplice not Ally

ac·com·plice
noun: accomplice; plural noun: accomplices
a person who helps another commit a crime.

“When we fight back or forward, together, becoming complicit in a struggle towards liberation, we are accomplices.”; Direct action is really the best and may be the only way to learn what it is to be an accomplice. We’re in a fight, so be ready for confrontation and consequence.

Types of Problematic Allyship

“Salvation aka Missionary Work & Self Therapy” – “Allies all too often carry romantic notions of oppressed folks they wish to “help.” These are the ally “saviors” who see victims and tokens instead of people.”

“Exploitation & Co-optation” – “Those who co-opt are only there to advance self interests.” These entities almost always propose trainings, workshops, action camps, and offer other specialized expertise in acts of patronization.

“Self proclaiming/confessional Allies” – “All too often folks show up with an, “I am here to support you!” attitude that they wear like a badge. Ultimately making struggles out to feel like an extracurricular activity that they are getting “ally points” for. ” Meaningful alliances aren’t imposed, they are consented upon.

“Parachuters” – Parachuters rush to the front lines seemingly from out-of-nowhere. They literally move from one hot or sexy spot to the next. Parachuters are usually missionaries with more funding.

“Academics, & Intellectuals” – Intellectuals are most often fixated on un-learning oppression. These lot generally don’t have their feet on the ground, but are quick to be critical of those who do.

“Gatekeepers” – Gatekeepers seek power over, not with, others. They are known for the tactics of controlling and/or withholding information, resources, connections, support, etc. 

“Navigators & Floaters” – The “navigating” ally is someone who is familiar or skilled in jargon and maneuvers through spaces or struggles yet doesn’t have meaningful dialogue (by avoiding debates or remaining silent) or take meaningful action beyond their personal comfort zones (this exists with entire organizations too). They uphold their power and, by extension, the dominant power structures by not directly attacking them.; Floaters are “allies” that hop from group to group and issue to issue, never being committed enough but always wanting their presence felt and their voices heard. They tend to disappear when it comes down to being held accountable or taking responsibility for fucked up behavior.

“Acts of Resignation” –  In the worst cases, “allies” themselves act paralyzed believing it’s their duty as a “good ally.” There is a difference between acting for others, with others, and for one’s own interests.

Suggestions for some ways forward for anti-colonial accomplices:

  • articulate your relationship to Indigenous Peoples whose lands you are occupying.
  • Accomplices listen with respect for the range of cultural practices and dynamics that exists within various Indigenous communities.
  • Accomplices aren’t motivated by personal guilt or shame, they may have their own agenda but they are explicit.
  • Accomplices are realized through mutual consent and build trust. They don’t just have our backs, they are at our side, or in their own spaces confronting and unsettling colonialism. As accomplices we are compelled to become accountable and responsible to each other, that is the nature of trust.

Notes | 1491 by Chris Mann

Territorial v Hegemonic Empires

“Territorial empires directly occupy territories with their armies, throw out the old rulers, and annex the land. In hegemonic empires, the internal affairs of conquered areas remain in the hands of their original rulers, who become vassals. Territorial empires are tightly controlled but costly to maintain; hegemonic empires are inexpensive to maintain because the original local rulers incur the costs of administration, but the loose tie between master and vassal encourage rebellion. ” p 78

On the Impact of Small Pox

“The empire’s population may well have been halved during this epidemic.”

“The human and social costs are beyond measure. Such overwhelming traumas tear at the bonds that hold cultures together.”

“The Inka… were not defeated by steel and horses but by disease and factionalism.”

“When the Europeans actually arrived, the battered, fragmented cultures could not unite to resist the incursion. Instead one party, believing that it was about to lose the struggle for dominance, allied with the invaders to improve its position. The alliance was often successful, in that the party gained the desired advantage. But its success was usually temporary and the culture as a whole always lost.”

“The first whites to explore many parts of the Americas therefore would have encountered places that were already depopulated.” … “…calculated that in the first 130 years of contact about 95 percent of the people in the Americas died.” … “the epidemics killed about 1 out of every 5 people on earth.” 105

On the Size of the Americas

“When Columbus landed, Cook and Borah concluded, the central Mexican plateau alone had a population of 25.2 million. By contrast, Spain and Portugal together had fewer than 10 million inhabitants. Central Mexico…was the most densely populated place on earth, with more than twice as many people per square mile than China or India.” 104

“Dobyns argued that the Indian population in 1491 was between 90 and 112 million; Another way of saying this is that when Columbus sailed more people lived in the Americas than in Europe.” 104

Indian Activists reject low-number estimates: “The smaller the number of Indians, the easier it is to regard the continent as empty and hence up for grabs. ‘Its perfectly acceptable to move into unoccupied land,’ Stiffarm told me. ‘And land with only a few savages is the next best thing.'” 106

On the Inka Royal Deceased

“Because the royal mummies were not considered dead, their successors obviously could not inherit their wealth. Each Inka’s panaqa retained all of his possessions forever, including his palaces, residences, and shrines; all of his remaining clothes, eating utensils, fingernail pairings, and hair clippings; and the tribute from the land he had conquered. In consequence, the greater part of the people, treasure, expenses, and vices, were under the control of the dead. The mummies spoke through female mediums who represented the panaqa’s surviving courtiers or their descendants.”

On Disease

“We had no belief that one Man could give a disease to another… any more than a wounded Man could give his wound to another.” – Blackfoot raider. p122

“Rare is the human spirit that remains buoyant in a holocaust.” p122

On Religious Leadership

From a conversation between the Franciscan Missionaries and the Mexica clerics: “We have a function: providing comfort and meaning to the common folk. To disavow their faith, the Mexica say, would tear apart their lives.”

On Government Formats

[In the Americas] government was an invention. Everywhere else it was inherited or borrowed. People were born into societies with governments or saw their neighbor’ governments and copied the idea. Here, people came up with it thsemlves. p 206

“All states can be parceled into four types: Pluralist, in which the state is seen by its people as having moral legitimacy; populist, in which government is viewed as an expression of the people’s will; ‘Great Beast’ in which the rulers’ power depends on using force to keep the populace cowed; and ‘Great Fraud’, in which the elite uses smoke and mirrors to convince the people of its inherent authority. Every state is a mix of all of these elements.” p 257

The Inka would select the most qualified son. Operated as a hegemony. p88

The Mexica: “A council of clan elders chose the overall ruler. Or, rather, the overall rulers–The Mexica divided authority between a tlatoani (literally: Speaker), a diplomatic and military commander who controlled relations with other groups, and a cihuacoatl (literally: Female Serpant) who supervised internal affairs.” p130

The Triple Alliance: A patchwork of satrapies, not a unified state.

The Five Nations: No woman could be a war chief, no man could lead a clan. The female-led clan councils set the agenda of the League… Women, who held title to all the land and its produce, could vote down decisions by the male leaders of the League and demand that an issue be reconsidered. p 373

On Death

Many if not most tlamatinime saw existance as Nabokov feared: “a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness.”

From the Nahuatl canon:

“Not forever on earth; on a little while here.
Be it jade, it shatters.
Be it gold, it breaks.
Be it a quetzal feather, it tears apart.
Not forever on earth; on a little white here.”
[p134]

Verse by Nezahualcoyotl:

“Like a painting, we will be erased.
Like a flower, we will dry up here on earth.
Like plumed vestments of the precious bird,
That precious bird with the agile neck,
We will come to an end.”
[p134]

Because we human beings are transitory, our lives as ephemeral as dreams, the tlamatinime suggested that immutable truth is by its nature beyond human experience. … Time and time again, the wrestled with “How can beings of hte moment grasp the perduring? It would be like asking a stone to understand mortality.”

On Art & Truth

“Ayocuan was suggesting that there is a time when humankind can touch the enduring truths that underlie our fleeting lives. That time is at the moment of artistic creation. “From whence come the flowers that enrapture man? The song that intoxicate, the lovely songs? Only from HIs home do they come, from the innermost part of heaven. “

Through art alone can human beings approach the real.

p137

On Combat

“The Mexica did not view the goal of warfare as wiping out enemies to the last man; they did not hunt down the last spaniards.” p 141

On Guilt & Responsibility

“The invaders caused huge numbers of deaths, and knew that they had done it. “Those who carried the microbes across the Atlantic were responsible, but not guilty,” Salomon concluded. Guilt is not readily passed down generations, but responsibility can be. A first step toward satisfying that responsibility for Europeans and their descendants in North and South America would be to treat indigenous people today with respect–something that, alas, cannot yet be taken for granted. Recognizing and obeying past treaties wouldn’t be a bad idea either.”

On Farming and the Milpa

“A milpa is a field, usually but not always recently cleared, in which farmers plant a dozen crops at once, including maize, avocados, multiple varieties of squash adn bean, melon, tomatoes, chilis, sweet potato, jicama, amarnth, and mucana.”

“Because agricultural fields are less diverse than natural ecosystems, they cannot perform all their functions. As a result, farm soils can rapidly become exhausted. … The milpa by contrast has a long record of success.” p 221

On The Future

“Native Amreicans ran the continent as they saw fit. Modern nationas must do the same. If they want to return as much of hte landscape as possible to its state in 1491, they will have ot create the worlds largest gardens.

Gardens are fashioned for many purposes with many different tools, but all are collaborations with natural forces. Rarely do their makers claim to be restoring or rebuilding anything from the past; and they are never in full control of the results. Instead, using the best tools they have and all the knowledge that they can gather, they work to create future environments.

If there is a lesson it is that to think like the original inhabitants of these lands we should not set our sights on rebuilding an environment from the past but concentrate on shaping a world to live in for the future.” – p 266

Other Random Quotes

“Ambition succeeds best when disguised by virtue.” p131

His word, his breath; Truth. p 136

Writing begins with counting. When a culture grows big enough, it aquires an elite, which needs to monitor the things it considers important: money, stored goods, births and deaths, the progression of time.” p 238

“The sense that anyone is as good as anyone else fuels entrepreneurial self-reliance, but also can lead to what outsiders view as political know-nothingism.” p 370

Weekly Round Up | Sliding Scales, Allyship, and Indigenous History

June 21 – 27
Every week I create a round-up of my favorite reads and listens over the last 7 days. Some links go directly to articles and books, others go to my post with notes.

Tuesday: Sliding Scales

I’ve always been committed to offering a sliding scale, understanding that it is an important component to promoting broader accessibility to programs and services. However, finding the right way to implement a system. However, sliding scales based on individual income levels are insufficient, as many factors complicate a persons financial position. I’ve been researching other ways people have gone about implementing their systems.

Wednesday: 1491 & Allyship Continued

Whenever I read a book, I typically end up doing a lot of broader peripheral reading to the subject, either tracking down sources mentioned, looking up additional context or historical background, or more deeply diving in to one aspect or another. This helps me more fully comprehend and place what I’m reading, and deepens the processing.

Last night I finished 1491 by Chris Mann, a book I’ve been working on for three weeks now. I’ve detailed my initial comments on last weeks round-up and have compiled my notes and excerpts here. I don’t typically take so long when reading a book, but found that both the density of the writing as well as my frequent need to engage in peripheral reading, slowed the process.

Notes | How to Make the Sliding Scale Better for You + Your Clients by Alexis Cunningfolk

About

The sliding scale represents the idea that financial resources, including income, are not and should not be the only determining factor in whether or not someone can access services/care/etc.

Additional Reading:

The Sliding Scale: A Tool of Economic Justice

Disadvantages of a Sliding Scale:

  • People take advantage of the system
  • Not getting paid fairly
  • It stresses people out

“If it feels more emotionally draining to offer a sliding scale – don’t do it. That’s really ok. The purpose of creating accessibility in our offerings is not to create unneeded stress or complication in our lives but, instead, to help everyone involved in the transaction feel more empowered. “

A Managed Sliding Scale

  • Closed, Multiple Tiers – Pre-set tiers; Ticket prices and number of tickets in each bracket calculated based on wage & costs.
  • Limited number of tickets at each price – “Helps folks make decisions more mindfully. Folks are less likely to just choose the bottom option if they see that there are limits.
  • Pay-it-forward pricing – “Set at a few dollars above the actual cost of the class. I let folks know that if they purchase a class ticket at this price that they are supporting financial accessibility for those folks lower down on the scale.

Example

Tickets :The Plant Sabbat is offered at a sliding scale. The actual cost of the class is $35 and tickets listed below that price are limited. Please read my sliding scale guide below before purchasing a ticket.

3 tickets are available at $20
5 tickets are available at $30
Unlimited tickets are available at $35

A Quick Guide to the Sliding Scale

While I encourage you to read my full thoughts on the sliding scale, here is a very brief rundown:

The top price class ticket is the actual cost of the class. If you choose a ticket price below the top tier you are receiving a discount.

The middle price is for those who are able to meet their basic needs but have little-to-no expendable income. Paying for this class may qualify as a sacrifice but it would not create hardship.

The bottom price is for those who struggle to meet basic needs and paying for this class would still be a significant hardship.

The Pay-It-Forward price is a few bucks above the actual cost of the class and that extra money goes towards supporting scholarships as well as future free and low-cost classes. Essentially it’s an opportunity to not only take your class but also support your fellow community members while you’re at it. Sweet!

Precedence | Sliding Scale by Attic Apothecary

Link to Source

How to place yourself on the sliding scale
Suggested Rate based on income:
$40 if you make less than $15,000
$50 if you make $15k – $20k
$60 if you make $20k – $30k
$70 if you make $30k – $40k
$80 if you make $50k – $60k
$90 if you make $60k – $70k
$100 if you make $70k – $80k
$110 if you make $80k – $90k
$120 if you make more than $90k

Consider paying less on the scale if you:

  • are supporting children or have other dependents
  • have significant debt
  • have medical expenses not covered by insurance
  • are eligible for public assistance
  • have immigration-related expenses
  • are an elder with limited financial support
  • are an unpaid community organizer
  • are a returning citizen who has been denied work due to incarceration history
  • experience discrimination in hiring or pay level
  • are descended from enslaved people or Native American Indians (I recognize that much of my privilege has come at the expense of these communities)

Consider paying more on the scale if you:

  • own the home you live in
  • have investments, retirement accounts, or inherited money
  • travel for recreation
  • have access to family money and resources in times of need
  • work part time or are unemployed by choice, including unemployment due to full-time school in a degree-earning program
  • have a relatively high degree of earning power due to level of education (or gender and racial privilege, class background, etc.) Even if you are not currently exercising your earning power, I ask you to recognize this as a choice.

Precedence | Sliding Scales – Rumble & McVan.

This is an amazing example of a sliding scale method I came across from the event Philanthropy & Equity Community of Practice (White Folks & Allies session) hosted by Tanya Rumble and Nicole McVan. I really like this method of reflection driven, self-selection.


We use a sliding scale for our CoP to both make it accessible for those with lower incomes/wealth and to reflect the value and labour of this work. ($75-$50-$25-$0) Ask yourself:

  • Are you and your family homeowners or landowners?
  • Have you attended private education institutions or do you have an advanced degree?
  • Does your organization cover your professional development expenses?
  • Are your bills or credit cards on autopay?
  • Have you not had difficulty accessing and affording healthcare services (Physiotherapy, Counselling etc) for you or your family members?
  • Do you have zero to no debt and/or do you have disposable income?
  • Do you have a safety net composed of “financially stable” or wealthy family and friends?
  • Do you have Citizenship in the country you live?

If your answers were mostly yes we suggest the $75 price point.
If some answers were yes and no, we suggest $50.
If most answers were no, we suggest you select $25 or $0.

Weekly Round-up | Performative Activism and The Truth About the History of the Americas

Every week I create a round-up of my favorite reads and listens over the last 7 days. Some links go directly to articles and books, others go to my post with notes.

This week was a particularly light reading week, with most of my time spent on making progress through Hood Feminism and 1491; Both which are still not finished. I usually get through books pretty fast but Kirkland Arts was bringing in a new Executive Director this week, which took up most of my available free time and energy.

Tuesday: Executive Onboarding

In anticipation of the new ED onboarding, I’ve been going through my old executive materials as well as looking up new resources for dealing with virtual onboarding. While nothing was stand out, I did like the break down into 5 categories by Nick Chambers.

Thursday: Poetry

Brainpickings is one of my favorite websites and this week one of the featured authors was the poet Lisel Mueller.

Friday: Performative Activism & Settler Priviledge

What is Performative Activism?
“We know performative activism occurs when those with power wish to give the appearance of supporting members of Black, Indigenous and racialized communities — but aren’t willing to transfer power and transform organizational cultures, policies, practices and behaviours.”

Why should we care about performative activisim?
Aside from the fact that the nonprofit sector is rooted in White Saviorism, “Performative activism leads to new and insidious forms of oppression for Black, Indigenous and racialized people. Performative institutions distract from the real issues at stake and also create additional labour for the Black, Indigenous and racialized people who end up collaborating with them. 

Weekend Reads: 1491

Despite going to relatively well resourced schools in the 1990s and early 2000s, I didn’t receive a comprehensive or accurate education in the history of the pre-Columbus Americas. I remember doing study projects on spanish conquistadors, with the focus on their ‘discoveries’ and achievements, rather than on the genocide of the existing indigenous populations. I was taught hat the Americas were for the most part uninhabited and underdeveloped by the time the Europeans landed, and that there were no major civilizations aside from the ‘barbaric’ Maya or Aztec.

1491 hammers home the astounding and offensive the gap between my childhood education and reality. Before Columbus, there may well have been more people living in the Americas than in Europe, with some estimates putting it as high as 112 million, many of them in urban complexes bigger and more sophisticated than London or Paris. These civilizations undertook major engineering and public work projects, build monuments to rival the Egyptians, and modified their landscapes to produce an abundance of food. Furthermore, the largest human dieback in history occurred when the Europeans arrived–carrying with them Smallpox, with up to 90% of the population dying from the disease.

I first read 1491 in college, but was so exhausted due to my academic load, that the impact of what I was reading was minor. Living now in the Pacific Northwest, and travelling more extensively across the western states of the US, this book has re-opened my eyes to the past brilliance and devastation of our indigenous populations.

Still in Progress…

I’ve been slowly making progress on these below, and will log them with my notes once I finish (Hopefully this week?)

Notes | What is Retroactive Allyship Theater, and are you guilty of it? by Vu Le | Nonprofit AF

Definition: Retroactive Allyship Theater (RAT)

A type of performative allyship when someone waits until a critical moment has passed and then tries to act like an ally, when the risks are no longer as significant.

How Retroactive Allyship Theater shows up:

  • Expressing support or agreement after the fact
  • Offering condolences or sympathy after the fact
  • Giving praise after the fact
  • Sharing personal stories afterwards
  • Providing criticism or feedback afterward, instead of when it would have made a difference
  • Indicating regrets for not doing or saying something

How to Combat Retroactive Allyship Theater:

  • Be aware of when you’re engaging in this
  • Recognize why you’re not speaking up
  • Take tentative steps to buy time
  • Find opportunities to take corrective actions
  • Reflect on what you would do next time

Extroversion & Speaking Up

“So many of our strategies for fighting injustice are geared towards extroverts, people who are naturally more comfortable speaking up. For those who are quieter and who need time to reflect, it can be more challenging to push back in the moment when we see or hear problematic things, or when someone needs support.”

Notes | 7 Questions to help figure out if you’re dealing with a performative nonprofit by Sanaa Ali-Mohammed

  1. How do they treat Black, Indigenous, and racialized workers who speak out about white supremacy and racism?
    [Performative] “leaders tend to favour the ones who make them feel comfortable, who aren’t asking the organization and leadership to do better”
  2. How do they approach internal interventions?
    [Performative leaders] “shy away from training and conversations about anti-racism, instead preferring to speak about equity, diversity and inclusion. However, you can’t have equity if you’re not dismantling oppression and talking about anti-racism.”; Performative nonprofits often adopt a “checkmark” approach of “let’s do training, so we can say we’ve done training.” 
  3. How do they quantify their commitments and measure progress?
    “For a sector [like fundraising and philanthropy] that has become so good at quantifying things, that organizations don’t have measurable outcomes [especially for addressing anti-Black and anti-Indigenous racism] is concerning.”
  4. How are mistakes, oppression, and harm acknowledged?
    Performative leaders and institutions will often fail to acknowledge or challenge the broader systems — like imperialism, capitalism or settler colonialism — that lead to specific instances of oppression, and will instead focus on the resulting symptoms.
    ..without acknowledgement of harm caused and apology and reparations to those who have been harmed, institutions and leaders cannot form authentic relationships. ;
  5. Do they demand trauma porn?
    Performative institutions demand Black, Indigenous, and racialized people’s stories of overcoming pain and adversity, in many cases in exchange for access to resources like funding.
  6. Do they recognize the complexity of Black, Indigenous and racialized people’s experiences?
    Performative institutions often mask internal issues of racial discrimination through tokenism, which relies on the idea that all Black, Indigenous, and racialized people are interchangeable for one another.
  7. Are they taking risks?
    Authentic allies are willing to take risks to interrupt oppression.

Anti-racism work is not just about training[…] It’s also about shifting culture and policies embedded across all levels of an institution, which requires allocating the time and resources needed to do so effectively. 

Weekly Round-up | Environmental Conservation, Catalytic Mechanisms, Othering, History, and More

May 30 – June 6
Every week I create a round-up of my favorite reads and listens over the last 7 days. Some links go directly to articles and books, others go to my post with notes.

Monday: The Real Origins of Memorial Day

With this past week kicking off with Memorial Day, I ended up diving into history after reading a news article about the American Legion that silenced a veteran from sharing about the black origins of the day. It’s crazy to me that I was never taught this in all of my years of schooling.

Tuesday: Environmental Conservation and Equity

On Tuesday, I had an interview with an organization that had a focus on environmental conservation and education. Typically ahead of interviews I try to prepare by deepening my knowledge of the organizations issue area.

Wednesday: Othering, Group Identity, and Collective Liberation

I stumbled upon The Othering and Belonging Institute on Wednesday. ‘Othering’ is a critical concept to understand when trying to bridge and heal communities. It has come up again and again as I’ve worked to use liberatory-based language and practices and looked for ways to understand and share an understanding of a collective liberation that connects your freedom to mine, and vise versa.

  • Article: The Problem of Othering: Towards Inclusiveness and Belonging By Powell and Menendian→
    This is a long read, but well worth the time.
    “The problem of the twenty-first century is the problem of “othering.” In a world beset by seemingly intractable and overwhelming challenges, virtually every global, national, and regional conflict is wrapped within or organized around one or more dimension of group-based difference. Othering undergirds territorial disputes, sectarian violence, military conflict, the spread of disease, hunger and food insecurity, and even climate change.”
  • Article: Us vs. Them: The process of othering By Clint Curle | Candian Museum for Human Rights→
    “People are different. We can use our differences as an opportunity to share and learn or we can use our differences as an excuse to build walls between us. When we highlight differences between groups of people to increase suspicion of them, to insult them or to exclude them, we are going down a path known as “othering.”
  • Video: Let them Drown – The Violence of Othering in a Warming World, Naomi Klein
  • Podcast: White v White | Invisibilia Podcast→
    “A city council candidate says he’s black. But his opponent accuses him of being a white man pretending to be black. If race is simply a social construct and not a biological reality, how do we determine someone’s race? And who gets to decide? We tell the story of a man whose racial identity was fiercely contested… and the consequences this had on an entire city.”

Thursday: Big Hairy Audacious Goals and Catalytic Mechanisms

The highlight of Thursday was working with members of the Board of Directors of Parkour Visions to prepare and conduct an annual evaluation. In this conversation we discussed what it meant to measure success, and mused on the potential future of the organization. After our meeting, one board member, Jason, sent me a book that he had found useful over the years–which, turns out, was from the same author of From Good to Great. It was a nice reminder as well to revisit the BHAGs I have for my organizations and personal life.

Friday Night: History of New York City Night-Life

Friday night was focused on fun. I accidentally dove down a rabbit hole of NYC nightlife history. Truly, the 70s, 80s, 90s were a fascinating time to live in the city and these stories captured the life and death of a cultural movement that had far reaching impact.

Weekend Reads: History and Mutual Aid

I finally picked up the next set of books on my list, which include Hood Feminism, Stamped from the Beginning, and The Heartbeat of Wounded Knee, as well as the two I plowed through below. I’ve always had a keen interest and passion for history, especially works that challenge and dismantle the white, western-centric stories I was told as a kid.

So much of our understanding of reality, and our interactions with other people, is shaped by our known version of history.

Still in Progress…

I’ve been slowly making progress on these below, and will log them with my notes once I finish (Hopefully this week?)